I just want to say in the middle of all this, that using Eloisel to bolster your argument was a cheap shot, Ru.
Think of it this way. Messenger is one of my mates here. I respect and care about him despite my intense disagreement with some of his opinions and rhetoric. Messenger and Eloisel do not get along, yet neither of them drag me into their bullshit to validate their opinion. Eloisel is one of my mostest favoritest posters in the universe. Their animosity does not affect my interaction with either of them one iota.
Maybe you should reconsider your rhetoric, since you don't have a "problem" with me. Take responsibility for the fact that you're a weasel cunt, and not to be trusted, and we'll move along.