Star Trek Picard season 3

whisky

Boobie inspector
Red door keeps saying Jack, red Jack?

It would fit an entity that is eternal and could go from body to body, killing in seconds with millenniums of experience.

As much as I would love to tie it to DS9 tying it to TOS is even better.
 

whisky

Boobie inspector
I guess we'll find out in the last second of next week's episode.
 

StarMan™

Active Member
The next thing is getting TNG crew on the ENT-D.

And because it's Frontier Day, they wear their old uniforms.
 

CaptainWacky

I want to smell dark matter
The cast continue to do good work, particularly Spiner and Burton here. Burton I think is probably the best at slipping back to his character's old way at delivering lines? It's hard not to feel at least some nostalgia glow when all seven are sitting around a table. I still makes me sad though how Jean-Luc Picard feels like the weakest character in Star Trek: Picard. Do they just not know how to write him or is it Patrick's Stewart's performance lacking gravity? I don't know, but I certainly don't remember him being out-acted by Gates McFadden in TNG...

I did kind of like the Data/Lore bit because at least it felt like the most Star Trek-like scene they've done in a while.

LOL at people on twitter acting like the bald Vulcan woman was a character they cared about. She had zero character moments all season, then died.

They should have at least shown Vadic frantically shapeshifting as she was thrown out into space. Her bird people minions sure could have tried shapeshifting too when Rafi was killing them with a sword. What's the even the point of those things being changelings?

There's absolutely no way the Jack reveal can live up to nine episodes of build-up.
 

Eggs Mayonnaise

All In With The Nuts
^ Unless he's V-GER.

As for Picard being the weakest character, I agree. But I bet that has more to do with Stewart being an exec producer and giving too much input into Picard's arc and behavior. I mean, his input brought us Nemesis...

But I'll admit, I got totally swept up in the action and the nostalgia in the second half of the episode, once they stopped the torture porn and focused on the original crew.
 

The Tomtrek

Love Wookiee
Did they forget what changelings are or how they work or what

why can they stab changilings to death?? they're goo???

Laas could literally travel in space?????? And he was fine????????
 

CaptainWacky

I want to smell dark matter
To be "fair" these are "evolved" changelings who actually have internal organs when they're in solid form and I guess that means they just die like a regular human would do when stabbed. Why they don't shift their shape when they're fighting someone armed with a sword I could not tell you!

Laas was just a fucking G.
 

Cassie

Touching the monolith
Staff member
I liked the Data stuff, and the old crew hanging out together, and I liked that Vadic froze in space and shattered. I hate ever thing else. This has been the worst ST ever.
 

Cassie

Touching the monolith
Staff member
The burning skull thing is what's left of Gul Dukat.
 

StarMan™

Active Member
I liked the Data stuff, and the old crew hanging out together, and I liked that Vadic froze in space and shattered. I hate ever thing else. This has been the worst ST ever.

Stop complaining and eat your memberberry pie.

I would say the last two episodes have put us right on the precipice.

Regardless of the conclusion, episodes 7 and 8 have fallen short.

I have enjoyed some of the 'memberberries; I don't mind fan service, but I'm only onboard when they're threaded through decent writing that could feasibly stand without their inclusion. Fan service ought to be extra: that cherry on top - that decadent slice of cake. They shouldn't be the primary sustenance.

It's interesting that many who are enjoying it freely admit to overlooking the faults of the show - they're happy to indulge in this one-off equivalent of Deanna on a chocolate sundae binge. This is the end of the line - just pump that nostalgia into our veins, 'cause we know this as good as we're gonna get.

I don't hold that against anyone. I may have been inclined to just give myself over to the whole "look, so many things I remember!" euphoria, but i) I had already checked out of Trek and only came back due to the former detractors going gaga over S3 and ii) the more they do it, the less impactful it becomes. Add to that the hallmarks of NuTrek storytelling that have frustrated so many have become more apparent with each passing episode - as it always seems to in the backend of the season.

One wonders what the reception might have been if it were the S1 cast in the shoes of the OG TNG cast running through a similar plot? I have a sneaking suspicion reception wouldn't be much improved on the preceding two seasons.
 

StarMan™

Active Member


I might be responsible for .4K of the 28.4K views. It's mesmerizing.

Buffy, right?

I have never watched Buffy, I'm a POS, I know.



Honestly, if Marc Alimo did rock up as Pah Wraith Dukat, I would go full retard. I'd be over the moon to see him and horrified at what was to come. I dunno - like that Pedro Pascal meme maybe.

pedro-pascal-crying.gif
 

Cassie

Touching the monolith
Staff member
I am really forgiving of almost everything ST because, idk why, but the longer this one drags out the more aggravated I get. If the show was more interesting I wouldn't mind dragging out the Jack reveal, but making it a cliffhanger for more than one episode was THE LAST STRAW. lol
 

StarMan™

Active Member
I am really forgiving of almost everything ST because, idk why, but the longer this one drags out the more aggravated I get. If the show was more interesting I wouldn't mind dragging out the Jack reveal, but making it a cliffhanger for more than one episode was THE LAST STRAW. lol

Yeah. Given episode 7 finished on "It's time you find out who you really are, Jack!", it's understandable the viewer might conclude ... guess we'll find out who Jack is next episode!

It's disingenuous to dangle a cliffhanger like that and not follow through. Imagine if Riker still hadn't fired by the end of 4x01... :D

The aggravation is definitely something that builds and comes through in my "reviews". Compared to a couple of other shows I was invested in recently - House of the Dragon and The Last of Us. I loved them both and *really* wanted to see the next episode after the last one cut to black. But aggravation? No. They're serialized shows as well, but they told complete stories each week feeding into the larger narrative; they left you wanting more, but you were satisfied. The strategy in Picard and NuTrek in general is just tease, tease, tease. Build it up, build it up - and what happens every time? You edge us to the point where we speculate to the extreme as to what's what and when you finally pull back the curtain, it's big ol' meh.

Fucks me off. Like, there's other modes of storytelling beyond what they insist for Star Trek - it's not as basic as serialized mystery v. episodic.
 

CaptainWacky

I want to smell dark matter
We pretty much know now that the truth about Jack is something to do with Picard's brain disease, as it was stated in episode 8 that Vadic had removed parts of Jean-Luc's brain infected with the disease. So it's going to be an ancient evil that's been passed down the Picard family line, disguising itself as a brain disease. Why only Jack has super powers and not the rest of the family? Maybe the ballsack nanoprobes activated it I don't know.
 
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whisky

Boobie inspector
When redjac was dispersed using the transporter in TOS.a little of him was absorbed into each of the TOS crew, as Picard and Beverly met members of the TOS crew it was abosrbed into them too, and the mating of two of them was enough to concentrate enough of it in the offspring to grant powers.

The prisoner changing was probably exposed too on purpose by section 31.
 
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