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At least admit you’re fucking scared. That’s what it comes down to. It’s not logic that makes people adverse to a Covid shot…it’s fear.

Tell you what, then. Grind up a Christmas tree ornament with a mortar and pestle. Grind it up just as fine as you can, Then take a syringe and put the ground up Christmas tree ornament inside, within a saltwater suspension.

Shoot it into your femoral artery. Just to see what happens.

If you don't, there's no logic behind your refusal; you're just scared to.

See how that works?

This isn't the middle school playground, and middle school playground, "You're just chicken!"s don't work on adults.

If they worked on you, well... you do the math on what that says about you.

Meanwhile, in the world of grownups who have free agency, natural immunity has been proven (and admitted by pharma corps) to provide longer lasting, superior resistance to COVID as compared to any of the vaccines. Additionally, the vaccines have proven adverse effects in a non-insignificant percentage of the population.

It's not as good as they say it is, and it's more dangerous than they advertise.

Not taking that deal doesn't make you "scared." It makes you not blind.
 

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Jack I can at least respect on this. He appears to have done the cost/benefit for his own scenario, then charted his course accordingly. And he's adult enough to accept that others are going to do the same, which may or may not come out to them charting the same course as his.

But this insane hall monitor shit like you just vomited into this thread is garbage.
 

USUC

Trollzilla
Tell you what, then. Grind up a Christmas tree ornament with a mortar and pestle. Grind it up just as fine as you can, Then take a syringe and put the ground up Christmas tree ornament inside, within a saltwater suspension.

Shoot it into your femoral artery. Just to see what happens.

If you don't, there's no logic behind your refusal; you're just scared to.

See how that works?

This isn't the middle school playground, and middle school playground, "You're just chicken!"s don't work on adults.

If they worked on you, well... you do the math on what that says about you.

Meanwhile, in the world of grownups who have free agency, natural immunity has been proven (and admitted by pharma corps) to provide longer lasting, superior resistance to COVID as compared to any of the vaccines. Additionally, the vaccines have proven adverse effects in a non-insignificant percentage of the population.

It's not as good as they say it is, and it's more dangerous than they advertise.

Not taking that deal doesn't make you "scared." It makes you not blind.
Tell you what, then. Grind up a Christmas tree ornament with a mortar and pestle. Grind it up just as fine as you can, Then take a syringe and put the ground up Christmas tree ornament inside, within a saltwater suspension.

Shoot it into your femoral artery. Just to see what happens.

If you don't, there's no logic behind your refusal; you're just scared to.

See how that works?

This isn't the middle school playground, and middle school playground, "You're just chicken!"s don't work on adults.

If they worked on you, well... you do the math on what that says about you.

Meanwhile, in the world of grownups who have free agency, natural immunity has been proven (and admitted by pharma corps) to provide longer lasting, superior resistance to COVID as compared to any of the vaccines. Additionally, the vaccines have proven adverse effects in a non-insignificant percentage of the population.

It's not as good as they say it is, and it's more dangerous than they advertise.

Not taking that deal doesn't make you "scared." It makes you not blind.
Bullshit. You’re scared! How can you compare a vaccine (and weird, imagined after affects) to a ground up Christmas tree ornament that’s shot into your vein and then try to claim you’re just “not blind”? Lol. You’re scared of the government shooting you up with god knows what. Call it “not blind” if that makes you feel less nut-less. I still think you’re a pussy.
 

USUC

Trollzilla
Jack I can at least respect on this. He appears to have done the cost/benefit for his own scenario, then charted his course accordingly. And he's adult enough to accept that others are going to do the same, which may or may not come out to them charting the same course as his.

But this insane hall monitor shit like you just vomited into this thread is garbage.
Blah, blah….as if I give a fuck.
 

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I still think you’re a pussy.
You'd have to be someone whose opinion I even slightly respect in order for that to make any difference whatsoever.

You're just some passive-aggressive authoritarian mook on a message board.
 

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Still doesn't matter what you think. ;)
 

Jaster

I came for the porn
At least admit you’re fucking scared. That’s what it comes down to. It’s not logic that makes people adverse to a Covid shot…it’s fear.

Really? Why did PFIZER INFILTRATE/CAPTURE THE FDA?
The following list outlines which FDA vaccine advisory committee board members are compromised and how:

• Acting Chair Arnold S. Monto was a paid consultant at Pfizer as recently as 2018.
• Steve Pergam received the Pfizer “vaccine” and was featured getting and promoting it by the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle.
• Committee member Archana Chatterjee worked on a research project involving vaccines for infants that took place from 2018-2020 and was sponsored by Pfizer.
• Myron Levine has mentored numerous U.S. post-doctoral fellows, and one of his proteges is Raphael Simon, Pfizer’s senior director of vaccine research and development.
• James Hildreth, a temporary voting member, made a financial interest disclosure stating that he accepted $1.5 million while serving as president at Meharry Medical College, which administers Pfizer’s covid injections.
• Geeta K. Swamy chairs the “Independent Data Monitoring Committee for the Pfizer Group B Streptococcus Vaccine Program,” which is sponsored by Pfizer. Swamy was also listed by Duke University as “a co-investigator for the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine trial.”
• Gregg Sylvester used to work as vice president at Pfizer Vaccines where he launched numerous vaccines for the company, including one for children.

Several other “temporary voting members,” including Ofer Levy of Boston Children’s Hospital, Eric Rubin, Jay Portnoy and Melinda Wharton, are all outspoken in their support for injecting children with Pfizer’s covid jabs.

The FDA’s vaccine advisory committee has never really been trustworthy or legitimate. It has pretty much always functioned as a rubber stamp for Big Pharma, approving and pushing all of the latest drugs, both pill and injections, on Americans.

“FDA advisory committee members in the past have frequently been the target of heavy politicking by industry representatives of whatever drug they were considering for a recommendation at in-person meetings,” reported FDANews back in December.

“That process has been somewhat altered by the fact that during COVID-19, meetings are being held virtually. But it’s likely that behind-the-scenes pressuring still goes on. The industry defends the attempts to influence committee members as simply efforts to best present their case.”

It is now an undeniable fact that the FDA cannot be trusted. Since it is run by the pharmaceutical industry, this fake federal agency is always going to push whatever brings in the profits, which in this case include Pfizer’s “Operation Warp Speed” injections.

More related news about the corrupt FDA can be found
 

Jaster

I came for the porn
This is patently false.
NO ITS NOT.
Siri tells the story of 12-year-old Maddie de Garay, who along with her two brothers were enrolled by her parents in Pfizer's clinical trial. That decision has changed the lives of the entire family, possibly forever. Within 24 hours of her second dose, Maddie suffered crippling pain and systemic injuries.

Maddie is now wheelchair-bound and requires a feeding tube. Pfizer's principal investigator initially claimed Maddie's injuries were unrelated to the shot and treated her as a mental patient. Eventually, her injury was listed as "functional abdominal pain" in Pfizer's report to the FDA.

"For a virus that rarely harms children, the need to assure safety of the Covid-19 vaccine is high. A study with only 1,131 children is underpowered. It will not pick up anything but the most common adverse events.

If what Maddie suffered will occur in 1/1,000 children, that would result in 75,000 children in this country suffering this serious injury. If it happens 1/10,000 children, that is 7,500 suffering this serious injury.

It could be that the cure is worse than the disease. But that will only be known if there is a properly powered (a.k.a., sized) clinical trial with children," Siri writes, adding that:

"International scientists have declared that 'inadequately powered studies should themselves be considered a breach of ethical standards.'24 Without a clinical trial of sufficient size that reviews all potential adverse events, such as that experienced by Maddie, for a sufficient duration, this potentially catastrophic result will not be identified prior to authorization or licensure …

The real lesson is not that pharmaceutical companies, or the FDA should act better or do a better job. That just won't always be the case. The real lesson is that civil and individual rights should never be contingent upon a medical procedure. Never.

Preserving those rights to choose whether to get a medical product, without any government coercion, is the final and ultimate safeguard.

Removing that right results in dangerous authoritarianism because just as the FDA will not admit to Maddie's serious injury after having promoted this vaccine, politicians that mandate the vaccine will not want to later admit a mistake by repealing the mandate."
 

Jaster

I came for the porn
Still doesn't matter what you think. ;)
YOU WILL. just wait.
The elephant in the room with covid vaccines is not merely that they are erasing the immune systems of those who take the jabs, but that the destruction of immune function will lead to an unprecedented acceleration in cancer tumor growth that will overwhelm the medical system and kill tens of millions over the next decade.

The vaccine holocaust, it seems, is going to be felt as a “cancer tsunami” that will somehow be blamed on everything else except vaccines.

From 1999 – 2019, cancer death rates plunged from 200 per 100,000 population to 146 per 100,000 population. (Source: CDC.gov) For all of 2019, there were almost 600,000 cancer deaths reported in the United States. The CDC has not yet published data for 2020.

Data from 2021 will be published in 2023, and data from 2022 will be published in 2024 if it maintains the same schedule.

Prediction: 2022 cancer fatalities will explode above one million fatalities, and cancer death rates will stay elevated for the next decade, all due to covid vaccines that began in 2021. However, we won’t see these data until 2024.
The decade of cancer deaths is now “baked in” and cannot be stopped

With over 191 million Americans now double vaccinated — and over 220 million single-jabbed — the countdown has started on what will one day be seen as the greatest medical atrocity ever committed against humankind. Importantly, this cannot be stopped. In fact, Big Pharma and criminal cartel leader Anthony Fauci — Josef Mengele 2.0 — don’t want it to stop. A wave of cancer represents the last phase of the medical looting of America… reaping obscene profits from chemotherapy and cancer surgeries while tens of millions of Americans are killed off by the depopulation vaccine weapon system.

By the end of 2031, tens of millions of Americans will be seriously impaired by cancer, if not already dead from it. And those who escape the ravages of cancer will, of course, be subjected to accelerated deaths from heart attacks, strokes and blood clots thanks to the never-ending sequence of “booster shots” that will be required by the criminal pharma cartels that dictate government policies and media propaganda.

In Idaho, Dr. Ryan Cole, a diagnostics lab owner, is already reporting a 2000% increase in cancers among those who took the vaccines. “Since January 1, in the laboratory, I’m seeing a 20-times increase of endometrial cancers over what I see on an annual basis,” Cole stated in the video. “I’m not exaggerating at all because I look at my numbers year over year, and I’m like ‘Gosh, I’ve never seen this many endometrial cancers before.’”

Watch Dr. Ryan Cole explain all this in his own words via this Brighteon video:

Brighteon.com/98980eb7-a3f6-4f60-a100-1f034f90beb8

In children, post-vaccine cancers will take longer to develop, so they may evade cancer death for many years. But in adults who are already growing micro tumors — and nearly everyone is already doing that — the loss of immune function will result in the rapid acceleration and spread of cancer, overwhelming their bodies in a matter of a few months to a few years, depending on their health status when the vaccines were first injected.
“Boosting” immunity won’t work because there’s nothing left to boost

Normally, when we talk about “boosting” immunity in healthy people, we are referring to supporting normal immune function through nutritional and lifestyle support, such as taking vitamin D supplements, experiencing restful sleep, avoiding stressful situations and avoiding immune-suppressing medications. But all these strategies rely on a healthy, functioning immune system that can be encouraged to do its job.

In covid-vaccinated people, that immune system has already been destroyed by the vaccines themselves… by design. As Dr. Paul Cottrell explains in this eye-opening video below, mRNA vaccine makers deliberately add chemicals to their vaccines to erase immune function in order to protect the mRNA strands from a normal immune response that would destroy them.

Put another way, a normal, healthy immune system would destroy the mRNA strands before they could breach the cell walls and enter cell ribosomes that synthesize proteins. Thus, suppressing the immune system is a critical strategy in the delivery of mRNA to the body’s cells.

Brighteon.com/4c2922ea-7239-478d-8780-6fb80d4df3f4

Even if this mRNA vaccine is effective against covid 1.0 — and current data appear to show it offers a temporary reduction in the severity of symptoms, wearing off over a few months — this immune “wipeout” strategy leaves the body vulnerable to everything else. That includes cancer, influenza, common colds and other threats to the body.

The vaccinated are now being referred to as “walking AIDS patients” as their immune function drops like clockwork, with some estimates based on UK data now tracking roughly a 5% drop in immune function each week.

This Swedish study finds rapidly waning immune protection during the first 7 months after taking a vaccine:

Interpretation: Vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic Covid-19 infection wanes progressively over time across all subgroups, but at different rate according to type of vaccine, and faster for men and older frail individuals…

One of the vaccines dropped to zero effectiveness within four months:

In contrast, effectiveness of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 was generally lower and waned faster, with no effectiveness detected from day 121 and onwards…
Which professions are going to see the highest mortality from vaccine-induced cancer?

The final point to understand in all this is that certain professions have much higher rates of vaccine obedience, meaning they will suffer far higher-than-normal rates of cancer mortality in the coming years. Those professions include health care (doctors, nurses, etc.), school teachers, first responders, government workers and tech industry workers.

Realistically, we should expect to see an accelerated die-off of people in these industries from 2022 – 2031 due to vaccine effects, both medium term and long term.

This means health care is going to experience an unprecedented staffing crisis for many years to come, especially as members of the public who also took the same deadly vaccines wind up in hospital emergency rooms, suffering from heart attacks, strokes, respiratory disorders, neurological disorders, and so on. This is already happening across US hospitals, right this very minute. And it’s going to get far worse this winter.

At the same time, people who don’t have jobs will be spared from the death wave because they aren’t forced into taking vaccines. So we’re going to see very high survival rates among welfare recipients and the unemployed, while the employed (productive) members of the economy are killed off in record numbers.

Think about what that means for America’s largest cities as the first responders, doctors and productive workers die off, leaving behind the welfare recipients and otherwise unemployed people. This is obviously going to thrust US cities into chaos, lawlessness and desperation — which seems to be the No. 1 goal of Marxist Democrats and Joe Biden puppetmasters.

Get full details on all this and much more in today’s Situation Update podcast which also covers many other critical topics for human freedom:

Brighteon.com/0a6fe03d-bfc9-4b86-a52b-b076a43a6b36

Get more podcasts and interviews each day at:

 

jack

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YOU WILL. just wait.
Yyyeah, you're kinda fuckin' koo-koo bananas, fella. But you do you.

As for me, I'm not taking it because I don't need it. I got natural immunity via organic exposure, and even the drug pushers admit the natural version is better than theirs. So I'm good. Plus, I fucking hate "high pressure sales tactics", which the pro-vaxxers started off with -- before they rapidly descended into genuine textbook Fascism (that is, government + corporations tag-teaming the human rights of the people.)

So fuck 'em.

But, hey, if gay frogs and lizard people is your reason... well, some people are Christians. People believe all kinds of wacky shit.
 

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Trollzilla
So you’re scared you’re going to get cancer from the vaccine. Scared is still scared even if you spend hours searching the internet for theories to justify your fear. Similarly it took me about a minute to find fact checkers calling bullshit over mRNA and cancer:

“But it's nonsense.
The claim that the COVID-19 vaccines can cause autoimmune disease has been previously debunked by USA TODAY. Similarly, experts say Cole's claim of COVID-19 vaccines suppressing killer T cells has no basis in reality. And there's no evidence of a cancer surge since the vaccine rollout”.

I predict cancer deaths will increase over the next couple years regardless of the vaccine because gazillions of people have put off elective cancer screenings.
We’re all marching towards death anyway. I doubt I’ll go because of a vaccine but I’m going one way or another.
I wasn’t actually too worried about getting Covid either (not in a high risk category). I got vaccinated because by April I was sick to death (pun intended) of the pandemic. We’re FINALLY almost rid of the mask mandates here. I honestly don’t give a shit if people decide not to get vaccinated except where they clog up hospitals, keep the pandemic alive, endanger those that can’t get vaccinated (or who don’t get good immunity) and cause governments to wig out and shut things down and force a mask on moi’.
 

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A job title doesn't grant infallibility. That's one reason people call pro-vaxxers sheep. Putting on a lab coat for a photo op doesn't make someone right, any more than tying a blanket over your shoulders and jumping off the couch makes you Superman.

Scientists get paid. They like to get paid. And when how much they get paid depends on saying what the guy with the money tells them to say, well, they're not angels. They're fallible, corruptible human beings.

Fact checkers don't get paid as much, but that's only because their deceptions don't have as much traction.

It's not the unvaccinated "keeping the pandemic going." The pandemic is keeping the pandemic going.

The virus isn't enacting lockdowns. The virus isn't imposing mandates.

That's politicians doing that shit.

And obeying them isn't going to make them stop doing it. You can't satisfy a tyrant into submission. Refusing to obey them, en masse, will stop it.
 

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Trollzilla
Of course a lab coat doesn’t make someone infallible or right anymore than putting on a police uniform doesn’t make for a non-corrupt cop and a suit doesn’t indicate an honest business person. What’s your point? I don’t trust any one person or even a few but I do put some trust in the medical/scientific communities at large who overwhelmingly support the vaccines.
As far as what keeps or has kept the pandemic going, are you oblivious to the number of hospitalizations and deaths occurring over the last 3+ months among those that chose not to get vaccinated compared to those that are?
Sounds like you’re a sheeple to the tin hat, far right nut jobs.
BTW, since you’re scared of the mRNA vaccines, why not get the J&J?
 

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Of course a lab coat doesn’t make someone infallible or right anymore than putting on a police uniform doesn’t make for a non-corrupt cop and a suit doesn’t indicate an honest business person. What’s your point? I don’t trust any one person or even a few but I do put some trust in the medical/scientific communities at large who overwhelmingly support the vaccines.
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Then you've fallen for an appeal to consensus. A thousand greedy liars are just as greedy and just as prone to lie as a single greedy liar.

As far as what keeps or has kept the pandemic going, are you oblivious to the number of hospitalizations and deaths occurring over the last 3+ months among those that chose not to get vaccinated compared to those that are?
Oblivious to it... I just named it. It's the virus that's keeping the virus going. That's what viruses do. That's their function -- specifically to this case, especially when they're designed to acquire that function.
Sounds like you’re a sheeple to the tin hat, far right nut jobs.
Define 'far right.' I like watching people hit themselves in the faces with pies. Makes me giggle.
BTW, since you’re scared of the mRNA vaccines, why not get the J&J?
Y'know, ascribing false motives to someone is dishonest.

You know what else?

You wouldn't feel the need to be dishonest if you really think the truth backs you up.

Take a mulligan on that one. Try again. With feeling.
 

jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
Meanwhile, I know my own immune system. whatever the virus is, the Moderna is the right tool for the job. Since CRISPR anyone involved in coding mRNA has some good work ahead of them.
 

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Trollzilla
Excuse me, could you try retuning your pigeon brain to some station resembling earth? Of course I consider consensus when I’m making some decisions (among other factors). And statistically speaking I think you’re wrong as well. Not to say there haven’t been times in history where the consensus hasn’t been wrong among certain groups (be they religious or regional and/or scientific at times), what separates us now is history and some wisdom and discernment that comes with that. Plus much better technology and communication. But I’d sooner believe in the possibility of a big, fat mistake than your wild conspiracy theories. Do you believe all cops are crooked? The majority? You can’t just look at scientists and Drs. and presume guilt without also applying the same lens to pretty much every occupation. Ergo, the world is made up of crooks out to get you in your paranoid/delusional world. Sucks to be you.
You dodged my question about the J&J vaccine.
I did regret using the “far right” reference because these days…people like you are an insult and drag on the far right (and while I might not agree with some of the stances on what used to be the far right-just like I don’t the far left) it’s not the far right anymore that are the problem. It’s those that have gone completely off the fucking page, table, continent. Lost your little minds.
If the virus is keeping itself alive it’s doing a shittier job in areas with high vaccination rates. Because that’s what vaccines do.
 

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Excuse me, could you try retuning your pigeon brain to some station resembling earth? Of course I consider consensus when I’m making some decisions (among other factors). And statistically speaking I think you’re wrong as well. Not to say there haven’t been times in history where the consensus hasn’t been wrong among certain groups (be they religious or regional and/or scientific at times), what separates us now is history and some wisdom and discernment that comes with that.
Ah. Current-Year-ism. It can't happen now. (But, psssst... it was "the current year" last time it happened, too. And they were 'sooo much more evolved' then, too...)
Plus much better technology and communication. But I’d sooner believe in the possibility of a big, fat mistake than your wild conspiracy theories. Do you believe all cops are crooked? The majority? You can’t just look at scientists and Drs. and presume guilt without also applying the same lens to pretty much every occupation.
Bold of you to assume that I don't.
Ergo, the world is made up of crooks out to get you in your paranoid/delusional world. Sucks to be you.
No, it's actually awesome to be me. Know why? Because, assuming that most people are out for themselves at any cost, while cynical, is also usually the most practical approach. And on those fleetingly rare occasions when I'm wrong about someone? Then I'm pleasantly surprised. But I'm never caught off guard.
You dodged my question about the J&J vaccine.
Because the question is irrelevant. I contracted, then beat, the virus, naturally. Natural immunity is acknowledged to be superior. I don't need the vaccine when what I already have is better.
 
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