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Are we going to mention Jimmy Kimmel?

Ah yes, doing splits in the air in slow motion. Hot pants with no underwear. It's like John Ritter in "Three's Company."
 
Late night talk shows got their start over 70 years ago. Typically they'll have a studio audience and the host will start with an opening monologue of jokes. In between commercial breaks he'll interview various celebrities and other interesting people with a couple comedy sketches thrown in, music from the house band, and perhaps a live performance by a guest musician/band.

But around a decade ago studios realized that what people REALLY wanted to see was a guy come out and cry and bitch about Republicans for 5 minutes before having various politicians and other people come out and cry and bitch about Republicans with a few skits making fun of conservatives mixed in. I don't know if they still have music or not. This development has revolutionized late night television to the point that now only NBC still has "The Tonight Show," the show that started it all is still on the air--the other major networks have pulled their money-losing shows.
 
The late night shows that will last the longest are the ones with the biggest internet/social media footprint.

This is why Fallon isn't sweating, even though his show sucks donkey and he's an appeaser. He and Tonight have a much bigger online following than Kimmel or Colbert.

Also, Fallon and Seth Meyers have Lorne Michaels in their corner. SNL is repsonsible for a serious chunk of network revenue, so they're not gonna fuck with him.
 
Volpone said:
But around a decade ago studios realized that what people REALLY wanted to see was a guy come out and cry and bitch about Republicans for 5 minutes...
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Hate to break this to ya, but Johnny was doing it way back in the 70's. It's nothing new, it's nothing as recent as you're implying. Although I agree it's intensified ever since Colbert took over the Late Show. Coming off of his (apparently fictionalized version of himself's) stint on The Daily Show and The Colbert Report, the Late Show monologues consistently became more and more politicized, and the others followed suit. It didn't help that around that time, Donald Trump was beginning his foray into politics, but Late Night hosts making fun of politicians is a tale as old as time.
 
So Sinclair ended up not airing the Kirk tribute after all. Those stations saw a rerun of Celeb Family Feud on Friday night instead.

Sinclair Nixes Plan to Air Charlie Kirk Memorial - The Daily Beast

Television broadcasting company Sinclair did not run a planned Charlie Kirk news segment on Friday night. The special, meant to memorialize the conservative activist who was murdered on Sept. 10, was scheduled to air during Jimmy Kimmel’s usual time slot on ABC.

Instead, six minutes before the program was set to air, Sinclair released a statement saying that the Kirk special would only be available on YouTube. “Tonight, Sinclair will continue to air ABC network programming as scheduled in the late-night time period,” the company stated. “The Charlie Kirk special will instead be available on The National News Desk’s YouTube channel, ensuring viewers can continue to enjoy ABC programming while also providing full access to the special online.”

The ABC programming that replaced both Jimmy Kimmel Live! and the special was a re-run of Celebrity Family Feud.

Sinclair and Nexstar, another major broadcasting group, both pulled Kimmel’s show from air on Wednesday, hours before ABC suspended the late night host indefinitely, citing comments Kimmel made about Kirk’s death on his Monday night broadcast. “Mr. Kimmel’s remarks were inappropriate and deeply insensitive at a critical moment for our country,” Sinclair vice chairman Jason Smith, following the decision. It is unclear when or if Kimmel will return to air.
 
Comedy has always been used to deflate important people.

That was the whole idea behind the court jester.
 
Kyehlar said:
Hate to break this to ya, but Johnny was doing it way back in the 70's. It's nothing new, it's nothing as recent as you're implying. Although I agree it's intensified ever since Colbert took over the Late Show. Coming off of his (apparently fictionalized version of himself's) stint on The Daily Show and The Colbert Report, the Late Show monologues consistently became more and more politicized, and the others followed suit. It didn't help that around that time, Donald Trump was beginning his foray into politics, but Late Night hosts making fun of politicians is a tale as old as time.
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Nope. Not really. Johnny made jokes about everyone. I've read he leaned Democrat, but you'd never know it from watching the show. I would swear I read somewhere that he said it was stupid to alienate half his potential audience but I can't find that. This is the closest I can find: https://www.aol.com/news/flashback-johnny-carson-warned-against-212224457.html
 
Volpone said:
Nope. Not really. Johnny made jokes about everyone. I've read he leaned Democrat, but you'd never know it from watching the show. I would swear I read somewhere that he said it was stupid to alienate half his potential audience but I can't find that. This is the closest I can find: https://www.aol.com/news/flashback-johnny-carson-warned-against-212224457.html
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Most recently it was Jay Leno, his successor. He may have learned the lesson from Johnny, but I remember reading about this a couple months ago myself.
variety.com

Jay Leno Says Today’s Late-Night Hosts ‘Alienate’ Half the Audience With Political Jokes ‘Cozying Up to One Side’: ‘I Don’t Think Anybody Wants to Hear a Lecture’

Jay Leno believes late-night TV hosts have become too politicized -- and that they risk losing half the viewing audience.
variety.com variety.com
 
Kyehlar said:
Hate to break this to ya, but Johnny was doing it way back in the 70's. It's nothing new, it's nothing as recent as you're implying. Although I agree it's intensified ever since Colbert took over the Late Show. Coming off of his (apparently fictionalized version of himself's) stint on The Daily Show and The Colbert Report, the Late Show monologues consistently became more and more politicized, and the others followed suit. It didn't help that around that time, Donald Trump was beginning his foray into politics, but Late Night hosts making fun of politicians is a tale as old as time.
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I never liked Colbert, really. I watched him on the Daily Show when he was on that, and okay, fine. When the Colbert Report came around it was just too political for me, and seeing glimpses with what he did with Letterman's show here and there completely turned me off. I generally kind of align with his political viewpoints at least somewhat, but there comes a time when too much is just too much. He wasn't a great interviewer, either.

As far as Fallon goes, no thanks.
 
Oh, here's another thing. I think I read that ABC is planning to just move Nightline into the Kimmel timeslot. Have you seen that shit lately? When did it become some sort of weird stupid Entertainment Tonight clone? I'm not sure if Ted Koppel is dead yet or not but his wig is probably prematurely spinning in its grave.
 
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