Time to fess up Sardy.

[Dark Whacker]

What are your conclusions to the UFO phenomenon <---spelling? ?

Do UFO's exist?
If they do what/who is behind them?
If they don't what are people smoking?

and finally.


Are we doomed to be conquered and made a slave race?

Answers I need answers.

[Dark Whacker]

Basically you summarized my personal experience with the unknown. Though I have never actually had one, I did study it alot when I was in highschool. I used to read every book on UFO's, Abductions, Secret Projects, J.J Benitez, etc. Regardless to say I was a firm believer, I'd watch documentaries and all the likes. I remember when I was 15 being alone at home with my younger brother who was 10 at the time. It was late and our parents had gone to some party. We were watching this documentary on alien abductions, me in my infinite wisdom had decided to turn off all the lights in the house, well one scene or clip showed how a couple of kids were lured away from their backyards. The two kids a sister and brother were playing in their backyards when they saw a blond kid in the nearby woods, they ofcourse curious to make friends followed the blond child, eventually they followed it up a hill. There the blond child turned around to reveal an alien face! Needless to say me and my brother let out a scream. I couldn't sleep for weeks!

Anyways regarding my personal experience with UFO's and the likes. I have never seen anything remotely mysterious and admit that for years have been disenchanted by all the nuts and loons out there. It seems that a day doesn't go by that someone comes out on TV or writes a book making outrageous claims to having been anally probed by some sex deprived alien race. I've been out in the countryside stranded in the woods all by myself and have seen nothing. I've actually pointed my flashlight up into the starry sky and no one has answered. I heard things go bump in the night, but have later noticed that it is my own breath, an old tree or some other reasonable explanation. I'm not saying I don't believe, I'm just saying that when you say that:

Originally posted by "Sardonica"

I also believe that 99.9% of the cases of sightings, abductions, close encounters, hauntings, psychic encounters, etc. and so on are nothing more than fabrication, misinterpretation, and confabulation.

I wholeheartedly agree.

[missmanners]

^^^^ Don't forget some may be controlled substance induced as well. Um NOT that I am admitting to anything....

;)
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[TheDarkMan]

Did anyone think to attribute UFO sightings to the prevelance of substance abuse in this country? :D

[TheDarkMan]

^Ya'hear that?! I was right about something for once! My day has come! 8)

[Parallaxis]

When I was younger my kid sister was abducted by aleins. We were in the living room, I was watching "The Magican". There was this bright light and I couldn't move. Aleast I think this happened to me. The line between real life and TV has begun to blur.

Are we doomed to be conquered and made a slave race?

Well the good news is we know TBonz and Lisa. I'm sure they'll worm their way to the top of the slave work group using the tips and tricks they've learned from being trekbbs admins.

[TheDarkMan]

Aliens are much like ghosts: what people come up with when they are bored with their lives. Or drunk. :roll:

(sorry all :D )

[Rihånnsu]

I think that some can't be denied, like the ships over Mexico City several years ago, too many people saw them. And sometime in the 50s,60s (?) weren't there a mess of UFOs over Washington, DC? Even the USAF sent planes up into the air, once they were sent, they moved off. When they returned, they came back.

[Illinoising]

Originally posted by "Sardonica"

Travis Walton (inspiration for the cool, but awfully inaccurate movie Fire In the Sky

That was a great movie, but I'm not familiar with the real background story. What are the inaccuracies?

[Illinoising]

^ Thanks. I'll have to look into reading that book.

I thought that the scenes aboard the spaceship in that movie were pretty wild... :shock:

I use to be into the UFO stuff a lot more back in high school in the mid-80s.

[Nivea Moon]

Okay....I'm unfamilliar with what a grey alien is - can you explain


Other factors contribute to these reports, as well: hoaxes, misinterpretations, delusions, mass hysteria, natural phenomenon, and so on. The VAST majority of sightings and experiences are resultant from one or more of these causes.


Here's an experience of mine that has always made me wonder.....

A few years back I was on a boat in the middle of the Indian Ocean and a friend and I were out on the deck at night taking star sights....Anyway to cut a long story short we saw a shooting star go up from the horizon instead down to earth. The logical part of me says it was a natural phenomenon or an optical illusion and this is a perfectly valid explanation. However, it was always one of those things that you always think...what if....

I can imagine a lot of people who truly want to believe in this sort of thing can go from saying 'what if'...to....I saw a UFO. I'm not discounting that there might be a small minority of sighting or experiences that can't be explained but the step from saying what if to I believe can be quite small for some people.

[Nivea Moon]

There's a phenomenon (and I can't off-hand remember the name of it) where shooting stars, distant lights, planets, the moon, satellites, and stars will look like they are moving, shimmering, rising or falling on the distant horizon at sea. It has something to do with light refracting through the atmosphere...


Yep, I know the one you mean, however, when you are standing at night in the middle of nowhere.....you do wonder.

And if it was a UFO then I'm pretty annoyed....afterall if they can probe hillbilly inbred trailer trash they why not me....I guess I don't meet their exacting standards. :D

[Darkening]

saw a UFO once about 8+ years with two other people, watched it for about 20mins....and yep this has nothing to do with what you lot are talking about so carry on.

[RobL]

I saw a UFO once, but it ended up being an airplane.

[three eyes open]

You mustn't forget military aircraft as UFos. In the early 90's many Europeans saw a certain UFO and drew pictures of it. A few years later the Stealth Bomber was revealed - and guess what? They tested it in Europe and it happened to look exactly like the UFO in those sightings. Although, as usual, the US military has not admitted any responsibility in these sightings.

I think there are a minority of UFO sightings of military aircraft. Part of the reason we may never learn of some of these aircraft is that there may be only one built and it doesn't perform as well as expected, in which case it's scrapped and the parts re-used.

By far, though, the best evidence for UFOs predates the 20th century. The earliest written report I know of is from ancient Egypt. Interestingly, the ancient reports contain a few details modern reports lack, like "flying in military formation". This shows that so many modern reports are colored with modern assumptions, whereas the ancients reported UFOs as a completely unknown phenomena. There are many such reports, of course, but they were neither assumed to be anything nor were they popularized. And people in ancient times who saw a UFO had never heard of anything similar.

BB,
3eyes

[Undina Arcania]

^ Or, perhaps they were Atlantian flying machines. I guess they'd still be UFOs, but not aliens. :)

[Darkening]

the one i saw wasn't a military aircraft, well unless they have a plane that has three lights that spin in to one and can hover for over 15mins then zip off at high speed.

[Ballpeen2]

Hey, you guys havent deleted me yet! You must luv me!